Curse

Vyral · Jul 02, 2010, 04:49 AM // 04:49

The Mursaat had a nice little gig going... acting as gods to a bunch of humans. Then we came along, killed a whole bunch of them including many of their leaders, and then set the Titans free to kill nearly all the rest of them. We managed to shut the door to the Foundry and killed off the roving Titans, thus sparing a tiny number of Mursaat from death.

Now their previously subjugated humans are starting to revolt against their tame humans, and we have been contracted to assassinate the very last few of them 1 by 1. I can understand the White Mantle's motive in this war. They want to remain in control. But the Mursaat's involvement is perplexing.

What is their goal? Why are they still around? Why haven't they ran off to wherever they came from in the 1st place to heal, recover, and repopulate in whatever way these things repopulate? The Flameseeker prophecy was fulfilled. The Mursaat no longer need the humans to sacrifice the Chosen and charge the soul batteries keeping the Door of Komalie shut. They were so concerned about the eradication of their species that they set a whole plot in motion in order to prevent the Flameseeker Prophecies. Yet now they allow themselves to just be plinked away?

What am I missing?

ManlyMan · Jul 02, 2010, 05:28 AM // 05:28

Shhhh... don't point out MASSIVE plot holes.... else you're gonna carried off by some mursaat and "disappear" like D'Alessio :'(

Shayne Hawke · Jul 02, 2010, 05:32 AM // 05:32

Beats me, but you might find some better answers asking the people that browse this section of the forum.

dancing gnome · Jul 02, 2010, 10:24 AM // 10:24

Players who read too much into lore and didn't realise the Mursaat were just a throw away enemy not intended to have a greater role in lore (GW lore is kinda bad this way) had rallies and small but vocal groups requested the Mursaat come back and be featured again in GW again. Of course this never made any sense so when ArenaNet did do it it turned out stupid and lame and simply confusing as to why it's treated as significant.

Why anyone thought the Mursaat are cool in the first place is beyond me. They have one memorable skill that becomes forgettable once you're infused and they only fall into core caster professions. I don't think they ever talk in Prophecies either, they are just kinda are there to kill or be killed.

BrettM · Jul 02, 2010, 10:38 AM // 10:38

I've had similar questions about the motives of the mursaat. I never expected any mursaat to put in a personal appearance given that their species is on the ragged edge of extinction. What could possibly justify the risk? What further use could the mursaat have for the Mantle?

But, as Pyre says, it is a poor warrior who abandons his best weapons. Given their limited numbers, the mursaat may feel that the security of their race depends on having the Mantle available as defenders, requiring the Mantle to be firmly established as rulers of Kryta until they are no longer needed.

There may also be other high-ranking mursaat survivors who have done the same as Lazarus the Dire and hidden pieces of themselves within members of the Mantle. Those hidden survivors might be best served by having the Mantle in control of Kryta until the time comes for them to emerge.

Mintha Syl · Jul 02, 2010, 11:00 AM // 11:00

I posed the same doubt in the lore section, as soon as mursaat appeared in WiK but it didn't have many followers....

Celestina · Jul 02, 2010, 01:13 PM // 13:13

Honestly, I would not be suprised if revenge was also a motivator. Would make sense for them to aid the white mantle if they wished to kill off the the ones responsible for their near extinction.

Karate Jesus · Jul 02, 2010, 01:52 PM // 13:52

Their motivation is for all of them to be found out and killed (except for one) to move the plot more towards GW2!

Or just some Deux Ex Machina thing.

DRGN · Jul 02, 2010, 02:46 PM // 14:46

If I had to guess, it might be because if they had to run off and hide because a handful of humans were kicking their asses, they might not be seen as gods anymore. I mean, if someone you worshiped was like "So yeah, we were almost completely wiped out by eight humans. We're still your gods but we're going to go hide for a while. Cya" then I think it'd look pretty bad.

But it really is a good question.

Eragon Zarroc · Jul 02, 2010, 02:50 PM // 14:50

they want sacrafices!!! MUAHAHAHAHA!!!

pinkeyflower · Jul 02, 2010, 03:15 PM // 15:15

They exist solely to give players a warm fuzzy glow inside when they kill them.

Iuris · Jul 02, 2010, 03:18 PM // 15:18

Well, the OP seems to assume that the Mursaat CAN run and hide and rebuild. That's not necessarily true.

Given how WiK goes, I expect that the Mursaat's own centres of power, where the OP expects them to retreat, were what the titans destroyed. I expect the titans focused on those, seeing as Mursaat were their primary opposition, giving time for humans to organize the resistance (in Ascalon, Kryta and Maguuma). So, the first waves of Titans would be sent on surprise attacks on the centres of Mursaat power, expecting the later waves to deal with the remains and the humans. And the later waves never came, thanks to, well, US.

To survive, I expect the Mursaat needed to rely on their White mantle subjects. So, the Mursaat who survived would be the ones with the White mantle - ie, the last ones. Also, I'd say that had the White mantle not been indoctrinated, they would have been able to throw off the Mursaat dominance at any time - but the indoctrination stopped them from even thinking of it.

RedDog91 · Jul 02, 2010, 04:11 PM // 16:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinkeyflower

They exist solely to give players a warm fuzzy glow inside when they kill them.

this is my reasoning too

Shriketalon · Jul 02, 2010, 04:41 PM // 16:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vyral

What is the Mursaat's Motive in the WiK?

For the lulz.

In all seriousness, though, this would be a good element for the finale of the war; the final battle involves a villainous monologue or two, during which we get their motivations straight from their.....um.............do Mursaat have mouths?

CronkTheImpaler · Jul 02, 2010, 04:47 PM // 16:47

There are many more left than we think... they think when the dragons return they will be able to ally themselves with them,.. there ya go, sounds just silly enough to fit in this games story line.

Cronk

Painbringer · Jul 02, 2010, 05:03 PM // 17:03

Will we be fighting SHIRO again

Thats all i want to know

Note to self...do not forget wild blow

Grunntar · Jul 02, 2010, 05:20 PM // 17:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vyral

The Mursaat... What is their goal? Why are they still around?

1) Dominate the humans
2) Feed on their souls
3) ??????
4) Profit!

RedDog91 · Jul 02, 2010, 05:41 PM // 17:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grunntar

1) Dominate the humans
2) Feed on their souls
3) ??????
4) Profit!

#3 = sell former human homes to the sylvari

The real estate in Kryta is unbelievable!

4thVariety · Jul 02, 2010, 05:54 PM // 17:54

Please stand up for the national anthem of the Mursaat Republic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3m-gOelA8g

How else would they rebuild?

belshazaarswrath · Jul 02, 2010, 07:21 PM // 19:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedDog91

#3 = sell former human homes to the sylvari

The real estate in Kryta is unbelievable!

...fail

Anyway the Mursaat are pretty much all but extinct and their gaiz (the white mantle) are the only people who give two shits about them. Best not to abandon them eh?